Trip Report: Thalys – Paris – Amsterdam

I love trains! Always have. Travelling from Paris to Amsterdam recently, the logical thing was to book a flight.In fact, the friends I was meeting, assumed I would fly in.

There is an amazing alternative, which means I got to ride a train! Thalys is a direct train service using High Speed lines to key destinations on two routes: Paris-Brussels-Cologne-Essen and  Paris-Brussels-Antwerp-Amsterdam.  Thalys International company is owned by the SNCF French Railways -62%, Belgium Railways (NMBS/SNCB ) -28% and German Railways ( Deutsche Bahn)  -10%.

Thalys has no meaning and can be spoken, understood and recognised by travellers from all of the countries served by its trans.  The Thalys logo is a feminine face in profile over a white arrow symbolising speed.

The distance between  Paris and Amsterdam is 430 km (267 miles). I proved to myself (and to my friends) that there is absolutely no reason to fly between  the two cities. The plane takes 1 hour 15 minutes. Add travel time to and from the airport at each end (say an hour total) and check in time (an hour), your travel time is about the same.

Booking- 8 out of 10

Bookings for these trains is compulsory. You cannot just rock up and buy a seat on board. Thalys on line booking system is very easy. The website is available in English, French, Dutch and German. Thalys offer two fare classes:

  • Comfort One- more room- a meal served at the seat, free WiFi and free newspapers
  • Comfort Two-standard economy class
As I searched for the cheapest fare, I found a seat in Comfort One that was 24 Euros cheaper than the cheapest seat in Comfort Two: 80 Euro compared to 104. Looking at other dates, there were quite a few occasions when a ticket in Comfort One was cheaper than Comfort Two. It is worth investigating. This is the one drawback of what was a very good system. This discounted opportunity, was a little hidden. So search carefully. Cheaper
Thalys offer ticketless travel which means your confirmation is emailed with barcode. You can also get it texted to your phone, along with texts in relation to travel delays and reminders. Your seat is allocated upon booking.I could not find a place to change your seat if you chose to.

Boarding- 10 out of 10

The train left from Gare du Nord, a sprawling station in the North of Paris. The station is home to Eurostar trains to London, Thalys, SNCF High Speed and Regional Regional Trains, RER suburban lines and Metro lines.

Guess who was late? I got to Gare du Nord with only minutes to spare. Train doors on Thalys close two minutes before departure usually, so I rushed along the platform.  Concerned I would run out of time hopped onto the first Comfort One carriage I saw hoping I could walk through the train. Unfortunately I discovered that the train was a combination of two train sets joined together. I could not walk into the front train set! Worse, is that while the front train set was going all the way to Amsterdam, the rear train set would be de coupled at Brussels. The train guard who happily accommodated me in a new seat, advised me I had five minutes at Brussels to move to the front train. He also advised the other guard of my situation so he would be looking out for me.

At Brussels, he helped get me off the train, cleared some Belgian students from my path and pointed in the direction of the front of the train. Great service. I boarded my correct carriage and found my seat easily.

What impressed me was that the train needed only a five minute wait time in Brussels and this including decoupling two trains. Why does Amtrak insist on a 30 minute wait for its Northeast regional services in New York?

Trains are wheelchair-accessible and the platforms are at door height which means that there are no stairs or gaps boarding trains. Carriage numbers are clearly illuminated.

The Trains

Thalys has two types of train: PBA and PBKA, all owned by the French railways and painted a cherry red with a silver stripe with the exception of the Tintin train, specially painted last year for the launch of the movie!. The PBA
of which there are nine of them can operate using three different types of overhead electric curent and the PBKA (17 exist) can use the four different types found on their routes. Top speed of the trains is 185mph or 300km/h. The pantographs on the Thalys trains had to be modified to limit their extension, to allow them to operate in the Netherlands which has some very low drawbridges.

On Board- 10 out of 10

Comfort One was about two thirds full and felt very roomy. Seats are arranged 1/2. In Comfort Two seats are arranged 2/2 . Carriage layout is here.
There was plenty of luggage room above the seats and at each end of the carriage. Officially, each traveler is entitled to a maximum of two suitcases and a piece of hand luggage. I had  a table for my laptop. There was a power outlet for recharging.

 

Safety Briefing

Thalys did not provide a detailed safety briefing. Announcements were multi lingual and minimal.

Meal – 5 out of 10

My seat in Comfort One included a free meal served to my seat. The “meal” consisted of a choice of a sweet or savoury pastry, a yoghurt and a drink. I chose Perrier! This is hardly a meal. It was mid afternoon so I wonder if at lunch or dinner times, there is something more substantial?

Service was friendly and very multi lingual. The staff served every customer in the carriage in their own language.

There is a bar in the middle of the train serves drinks, sandwiches and hot dishes.

 

The Ride: 10 out of 10

The train smoothly accelerated out of Paris du Nord right on time on a mild and sunny Sunday afternoon. We rolled through the Paris suburbs and then 16.6 kilometres (10 miles) from Gare du Nord moved to the LGV Nord high speed line which takes trains from Paris to Lille, London and the Belgian border. Euostar trains use this line and there are even direct trains from London to Eurodisney which pass this way. Very soon, my cell phone chirped twice to tell me it was changing phone providers from the French to Belgian phone services.  This was the only sign that I had crossed the border into Belgium.We were now running on the Belgian High Speed line HSL 1 (see Wikipedia map above) which continues until 17 kilometres from Brussels Midi Station. At that point maximum speed for the train falls to 200km/h (120mph). It was raining in Brussels and the city looked very grey compounded by the approaching dusk.

From Brussels to the Northern Belgian city of Antwerp a 47 kilometre trip, the train speed dropped to  160 kilometres per hour (100mph) on an upgraded regular line and the scenery outside got darker as evening drew in. After Antwerp, it was back to high speed running to the Dutch border (although in some countries 160km/h is considered high speed!). Another two chirps on my mobile told me I had switched from the Belgian to Dutch mobile network. Amazing that once upon a time, the train would have stopped for a border and customs inspection! We were now on the Hogesnelheidslijn Zuid, (High-Speed Line South!), the newest segment of this high speed line. It was dark now so I could not see much of the Dutch countryside. The train paused at Rotterdam and then sailed into Amsterdam station right on time after exactly 3 hours 19 minutes of train travel.

Noise inside the train was quite muted. Ride was very smooth.

 

 


Wifi – 7 out of 10

Connecting to the free wifi was easy. Remaining connected was a challenge. Connection seemed to drop. Download speeds varied from reasonable to non existent. This was very frustrating.

 

The Verdict

My rating: 93% (4.5 out of 5).

Positives:  Cabin, Roomy, free wifi, great staff, convenience, speed

Negatives: Meal, wifi slow

Would I ride them again? Yes, yes, yes.

Commentary:  The distance on this route (430km -250miles) is about the same as Sydney to Coffs Harbour in Australia which takes the XPT (Express Passenger Train) eight hours 50 minutes.

In the  USA,  Chicago to Saint Louis is a similar distance – Amtrak takes five hours and 20 minutes (when on time..they were an hour delayed en route when I rode it last). On the East Coast Boston and Philadelphia, a similar distance will take four hours and 56 minutes with Acela and almost six hours by ordinary train. Its also about the same distance between Dallas and San Antonio which takes Amtrak 10 hours and 5 minutes.

Imagine shrinking all of those times down to just over 3 hours.

My last Trip Report: March 13: Gulf Air – Bahrain (BAH) to Abu Dhabi (AUH) Embraer 170

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  1. I LOVE trraveling by train. I try to ride whenever I’m in Europe, mostly ICE and TGV. Many of the tracks in France and Germany are great, and smooth. Having a table, food, room to get up and move around…awesome!

  2. Hi Martin, good report!

    I will take the same path next Feb but a bit concerned… Do you think I can make it to Amsterdam airport ontime considering that I will depart from Paris at 06:25am and arrive at Amsterdam Airport ar 09:41am, my flight departs at 11am. Wonder how easy would be to get out from the train and proceed to the airport checkin?

    Thanks in advance!
    Gladson

  3. It is very easy Gladson to get from train to check in. Signage at the airport is very good and the terminal easy to navigate. It is only one main terminal but has three departure halls. Be prepared for a lot of walking.

    . The airport is located directly under the main terminal. You will be fine if:
    1. your train is on time. The Thayls has a great reliability BUT things can go wrong. Personally,I would take an earlier train or go the night before
    2. you are not flying Ryanair or Easyjet
    3. you have checked in online and are dropping bags off OR you are a priority status frequent flyer

  4. thank you for your post. it was very infomative. You mentioned the train briefly stops in brussels and then you answered a question about a stop at Schipol airport. Can you tell me if this train stop at the airport before Amsterdam Central? Thank you.

  5. hi, are they strict with the name that shows on the ticket.I have 2 names but the field could not accomodate everything so i only typed-in one of my first names.do you think thats gonna be a problem? are they also involved with strikes?hoping for your response

  6. I have never seen them look that closely at a ticket! As long as it is your genuine first name, I cannot see an issue.
    Thalys have not a bad reputation re strikes. There was a Belgian railway strike two years ago which affected Thalys services. So rare, I would not worry.

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